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Catixie · Apr 12, 2012, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Hello all,

Old time guild wars player coming back due to the release of guild wars 2. Pre purchase done and looking to get points from the hall. My problem is the pvp title, My boyfriend and I haven't played in over a year and are wondering what the fastest way to get the pvp title would be. Grinding out random arenas getting the gladiator title or whatever it is, or grouping together and doing alliance battles and trading in for Z keys to get the Z title.

Your opinions are appreciated I look forward to reading the replies in a few hours when I wake up.

Thank you!

tealspikes · Apr 12, 2012, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Zaishen Rank 3 for HoM is the easiest to obtain.

Complete the Zaishen Challenge Quests to earn Balthazar Faction. These are PvP tasks that change daily. You can repeat them as many times as you want, all you need to do after turning one in is to re-zone or go to another district.

You will convert the Balthazar faction gained from these quests into Zaishen Keys (from Tolkano). Then you will go into Isle of the Nameless and use them to open the Zaishen Chest. This is what adds points to your title, what you actually get out of the chest doesn't matter.

Another method is to trade Z-keys from other players. This makes Zaishen Rank unique in that it's the only PvP title that can be legitimately "bought".

Tips:
- z-quests have bonus objectives but none of them give extra faction, only z-coins. If you priority is to get z-keys and max the title then it is more efficient to ignore the bonus and turn the quest in as soon as you complete the primary objective

- new pvp players start with a very low Balthazar faction cap. remember to dump your faction often so that none of it goes to waste!

- the Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood z-quests do not award Balthazar faction. They should still be done though, because they give Imperial faction which works toward your Kurzick/Luxon title.

kewlsnake · Apr 12, 2012, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Just to be clear, if you're going for 30/50 HoM, getting the pvp title is horribly inefficient. If you were to go for Zaishen Rank 3, the money used for that title is enough to get another character to 30/50 with some money to spare.

Kendil · Apr 12, 2012, 06:50 PM // 18:50

If you are determined to go for a pvp title then the zaishen title is fastest by far, unless you're just a few points away from r3 in glad or something. Still, I would only try for the zaishen title if I was wealthy enough to do it without problems or had enough zkeys to start with (e.g. wealth).

If you can't get a pvp-title on a convenient way then I suggest you try with cheaper stuff, another destroyer weapon or two is much, much cheaper than 200 zkeys.

If you figure that you really need to pvp title, then I guess doing a full run of zaishen elite every day wouldn't be too bad, it'll take 166 days to get 200 zkeys that way though.

EtherealSkys · Apr 12, 2012, 08:40 PM // 20:40

As the others have said, Zaishen is the easiest to get, however I recommend you do everything else first, as the pvp title will be the most expensive points to get in the entire HoM.

Catixie · Apr 12, 2012, 09:10 PM // 21:10

Thank you all for your replies! I will link him to this post to read when he wakes up.

Meow Ren · Apr 12, 2012, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Depending on when you stopped playing, you may not be aware of this change from Feb 19, 2010.

Every account now gets 50 free tournament reward points from High Priest Zhang in the Great Temple of Balthazar. They will appear in your Hero panel (press H, under the last tab). After speaking to HP Zhang, speak to Tolkano (also in GToB) to register your account. After that, you can speak to him again to exchange those 50 points for 10 zkeys toward the Zaishen title (5 points per key).

Catixie · Apr 13, 2012, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Thank you I had that pointed out to me last night I would not have known otherwise

LanaDarkess · Apr 13, 2012, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Zaishen hands down. I've been doing the daily quests (you don't just HAVE to do pvp to get a the zaishen pvp statue), and from them you can get a key from a gold zaishen coin.

It's also handy if you have a few characters that can get to the same area to do the daily quest. Recently there have been a few easy quests popping up, takes less than 20 mins per character and you get gold+zaishen coins.

Star_Jewel · Apr 13, 2012, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by tealspikes

- the Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood z-quests do not award Balthazar faction. They should still be done though, because they give Imperial faction which works toward your Kurzick/Luxon title.

Imperial Faction can be converted to Balthazar Faction (at a reduced rate) to earn more Zaishen Keys, though.

It can be really annoying to get the consecs needed for Glad, but you're guaranteed Imperial, win or lose, from doing JQ/FA. If OP is set on getting the PvP statue, I'd say scrap the Alliance Battle idea (it's a ghost town and waits are unbearable) and stick to Jade Quarry. Ever since the update that introduced Imperial Faction, it's so easy to just switch to whatever side is sucking least and rack up the faction. Trapping/Nuking with the boyfriend once a day in Zaishen Elite can also add some keys.

Catixie · Apr 13, 2012, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Thank you again. He showed me trapping the other night I laughed at how easy that was. I have been trying to get the gold for armour and pet achievements to get that one out of the way for now so once I am done there I will see how I go with the pvp one.

Kook~NBK~ · Apr 13, 2012, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by LanaDarkess

Zaishen hands down. I've been doing the daily quests (you don't just HAVE to do pvp to get a the zaishen pvp statue), and from them you can get a key from a gold zaishen coin.

Don't trade gold z-coins for keys. Gold z-coins can easily be traded for 2 ecto each, which in turn can be traded for 3 keys. (1 Gold Z-coin = 2 ecto = 3 z-keys)

LanaDarkess · Apr 18, 2012, 05:20 AM // 05:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

Don't trade gold z-coins for keys. Gold z-coins can easily be traded for 2 ecto each, which in turn can be traded for 3 keys. (1 Gold Z-coin = 2 ecto = 3 z-keys)

Thanks for that! I had no idea how much a gold zcoin is worth.

Apr 12, 2012, 04:53 PM // 16:53	#1
Catixie Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Australia Profession: E/Me	Which way to go Hello all, Old time guild wars player coming back due to the release of guild wars 2. Pre purchase done and looking to get points from the hall. My problem is the pvp title, My boyfriend and I haven't played in over a year and are wondering what the fastest way to get the pvp title would be. Grinding out random arenas getting the gladiator title or whatever it is, or grouping together and doing alliance battles and trading in for Z keys to get the Z title. Your opinions are appreciated I look forward to reading the replies in a few hours when I wake up. Thank you!

Apr 12, 2012, 05:37 PM // 17:37	#2
tealspikes Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009	Zaishen Rank 3 for HoM is the easiest to obtain. Complete the Zaishen Challenge Quests to earn Balthazar Faction. These are PvP tasks that change daily. You can repeat them as many times as you want, all you need to do after turning one in is to re-zone or go to another district. You will convert the Balthazar faction gained from these quests into Zaishen Keys (from Tolkano). Then you will go into Isle of the Nameless and use them to open the Zaishen Chest. This is what adds points to your title, what you actually get out of the chest doesn't matter. Another method is to trade Z-keys from other players. This makes Zaishen Rank unique in that it's the only PvP title that can be legitimately "bought". Tips: - z-quests have bonus objectives but none of them give extra faction, only z-coins. If you priority is to get z-keys and max the title then it is more efficient to ignore the bonus and turn the quest in as soon as you complete the primary objective - new pvp players start with a very low Balthazar faction cap. remember to dump your faction often so that none of it goes to waste! - the Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood z-quests do not award Balthazar faction. They should still be done though, because they give Imperial faction which works toward your Kurzick/Luxon title.

Apr 12, 2012, 06:15 PM // 18:15	#3
kewlsnake Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2010 Profession: N/Me	Just to be clear, if you're going for 30/50 HoM, getting the pvp title is horribly inefficient. If you were to go for Zaishen Rank 3, the money used for that title is enough to get another character to 30/50 with some money to spare.

Apr 12, 2012, 06:50 PM // 18:50	#4
Kendil Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sweden	If you are determined to go for a pvp title then the zaishen title is fastest by far, unless you're just a few points away from r3 in glad or something. Still, I would only try for the zaishen title if I was wealthy enough to do it without problems or had enough zkeys to start with (e.g. wealth). If you can't get a pvp-title on a convenient way then I suggest you try with cheaper stuff, another destroyer weapon or two is much, much cheaper than 200 zkeys. If you figure that you really need to pvp title, then I guess doing a full run of zaishen elite every day wouldn't be too bad, it'll take 166 days to get 200 zkeys that way though.

Apr 12, 2012, 08:40 PM // 20:40	#5
EtherealSkys Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2010 Guild: VKO Profession: W/A	As the others have said, Zaishen is the easiest to get, however I recommend you do everything else first, as the pvp title will be the most expensive points to get in the entire HoM.

Apr 12, 2012, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#6
Catixie Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Australia Profession: E/Me	Thank you all for your replies! I will link him to this post to read when he wakes up.

Apr 12, 2012, 11:58 PM // 23:58	#7
Meow Ren Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2011 Guild: Black Hand Gang Profession: R/	Depending on when you stopped playing, you may not be aware of this change from Feb 19, 2010. Every account now gets 50 free tournament reward points from High Priest Zhang in the Great Temple of Balthazar. They will appear in your Hero panel (press H, under the last tab). After speaking to HP Zhang, speak to Tolkano (also in GToB) to register your account. After that, you can speak to him again to exchange those 50 points for 10 zkeys toward the Zaishen title (5 points per key).

Apr 13, 2012, 02:18 AM // 02:18	#8
Catixie Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Australia Profession: E/Me	Thank you I had that pointed out to me last night I would not have known otherwise

Apr 13, 2012, 11:24 AM // 11:24	#9
LanaDarkess Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Australia Profession: N/	Zaishen hands down. I've been doing the daily quests (you don't just HAVE to do pvp to get a the zaishen pvp statue), and from them you can get a key from a gold zaishen coin. It's also handy if you have a few characters that can get to the same area to do the daily quest. Recently there have been a few easy quests popping up, takes less than 20 mins per character and you get gold+zaishen coins.

Apr 13, 2012, 11:27 PM // 23:27	#11
Catixie Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Australia Profession: E/Me	Thank you again. He showed me trapping the other night I laughed at how easy that was. I have been trying to get the gold for armour and pet achievements to get that one out of the way for now so once I am done there I will see how I go with the pvp one.